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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

Dan Loeb: The Lost Art of Short Selling, and Why Stock Picking is Back

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg

All-In Podcast, LLC

Business, Technology, Entrepreneurship

4.010.4K Ratings

🗓️ 5 June 2026

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

(0:00) Dan Loeb joins the Besties!

(0:34) Investor journey: From message boards to a multibillion dollar hedge fund

(3:15) Third Point's early days: mentors and market turmoil

(8:47) Strategy shift: Event-driven to quality and AI

(16:01) The art of short selling and a homebuilder trade

(22:15) Criminal justice reform and the Ross Ulbricht pardon

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Legendary activist investor, Dan Loeb.

0:03.0

He, of course, is the CEO and CIO of Third Point.

0:06.5

The lost art of short selling has come back, and it's absolutely critical.

0:11.0

It doesn't matter what you do. You have to be really selective.

0:14.0

People talk about stock pickers market. This is a bond and credit pickers market.

0:18.0

When we were small, our main tool was a shame and humor. Dan Loeb turning up the

0:23.2

heat on Nestle over the weekend. The shift has really been more towards a dare to be great message.

0:29.0

Activism without proxy contest is like Catholicism without hell. You're very active on the

0:35.7

Twitter as well. Oh, well. You found your voice.

0:38.7

A lot of emotion brewing there.

0:41.1

Can we actually start with that?

0:42.5

Before Twitter, you were actually quite active, but they were in very different places.

0:47.9

I mean, you were in Wall Street Beds before Wall Street Bets existed.

0:50.8

Can you just walk us through your evolution as a public persona?

0:56.0

Sure. I mean, there was this brand new technology that came out called the Internet.

1:03.0

And really shortly thereafter, long before Reddit or any of these other things,

1:08.0

there were a series of chat boards.

1:11.0

There was Yahoo, there was something called Silicon Investor, a few other ones, and people

1:17.6

would congregate and kibbits.

1:19.4

It was done mostly anonymously, and it was an interesting place to exchange ideas. It was really the Wild West. People could pretty much

1:29.8

say or do anything, but there was a lot of substance there, too. It's not actually that much

1:33.6

different than from today. Did you engage at all in any trolling, per se? Well, some people

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