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The following podcast contains explicit language.

Hello and welcome to Mom and dad are fighting Slate's parenting podcast for Thursday, December 17th.

The Dan Goes to the Mall edition.

I'm Allison Benedict, an editor at Slate, and the mom of Harry 7, Sam 4, and Wally, too.

I'm Dan Cois. I'm also an editor at Slate, and I am the dad of Lyra, who is 10, and Harper, who is 8.

And we're both in the New York studio looking at each other. So weird. Very weird. And Dan is sitting. Normally he stands, but he's sitting. I couldn't make the printers work, so I had to bring my laptop into the studio, and I didn't want to hold a laptop the whole time.

I like it.

It's the only thing that could stop me from my usual devotion to making you feel uncomfortable.

On today's show, we'll talk to education writer Sarah Carr about the Every Child Succeeds Act or as Dan keeps calling it the new no child left behind.

I literally didn't know it had a name until you just said that.

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