You can get the two biggest scandals of our time wrong in the media.

You can say SpyGate was a hoax, it wasn't, and collusion was real, it wasn't, and you get

a Pulitzer Prize.

If you regularly listen to conservative podcasts like you are right now, you almost certainly

know of Dan Bongino's The Dan Bongino Show.

Bongino, formerly a New York City cop and White

House Secret Service agent, now hosts a successful daily show breaking down the news of the day and

taking listeners places the mainstream media will not go. One of his top focuses the last few years

has been the deep state war against President Trump through its countless attempts to produce a scandal

and corruption around the presidency. Along with frequent coverage in his show, has published three books on the subject. The latest is Follow the Money, the shocking deep state connections of the anti-Trump cabal, which was just released this week. One of the biggest scandals from, as Dan puts it, swampy, DC elite, and wealthy Democrats, is SpyGate. That's a buzzword. We've all heard a lot,

and it can be a difficult story to unpack, but Dan makes it simple. In this episode,

you'll hear him discuss with me, this and other attempts to dismantle President Trump and his

administration. We'll also discuss the defund the police movement from Dan's perspective

as an officer in New York City when those streets were cleaned up.

And the difference is between serving as a Secret Service agent in the Clinton, Bush, and Obama administrations.

Hey, hey, and welcome. This is the Ben Shapiro Show Sunday special this week, featuring a very special guest, Dan Bongino. Just a reminder, we'll be doing some bonus questions at the end with Dan. The only way to get access to that part of the conversation is to go become a member. Head on over to Dailywire.com, become a member. You'll have access to all the full conversations with every one of our awesome guests. Dan, thanks so much for

stopping by. You know, what a pleasure. It's been so long. I'm always looking at you at the top of the charts. I always see him. And then I look down there and I'm like, uh-oh, he's coming. He's coming for me. Now, you have a great show. It's great to finally see. We always kind of cross paths, but this should be an interesting conversation.

Absolutely.

So let's jump right into the Trump issue.

So a lot of folks in the media, I think,

kind of get you wrong as just the Trump guy, because you've obviously been very pro-President Trump during his tenure, but it took you a while to get there. You weren't originally a Trump guy. So tell me about sort of the evolution from where you were on Trump to where you are on Trump now. Yeah, it's fascinating. I'd endorse Ted Cruz. And I remember calling around at the time to people trying to get, get them on board, law enforcement people and other folks with prominent public profile saying, hey, you know, Ted's our guy. And I still like Ted Cruz a lot, obviously. And I made one specific call to someone, let's say, in the industry, who you know, but shall remain nameless for the purpose of this interview. And she said to me, I'm all about Trump. And I was stunned because this is a diehard conservative. And I said, really? I said, I don't know. I don't see it. You know, the Democrat history and all that other stuff? She said, listen to me. She said, this guy gets it. he understands. She said, I think the word was, he's going to be transactional at times,

but she made a great point to me. She said, this guy gets it. He understands. She said, I think the word was, he's going to be transactional at times, but she made a great point to me. She said, you know, do you want a showman and a guy who plays conservative and has all these people convincing gets in there and doesn't do anything conservative, or a guy who gets it that conservatives were his way to the White House and understands that conservatism is actually

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