Hi, this is Andrew Eger with the bulwark.

It can be hard sometimes when you are one of the MAGA figures who's been put in to the

government supposedly to do incredibly based stuff all the time and make all of the MAGA

people's wildest dreams come true.

It can be tricky because you have a spotlight on your work and people might start looking

around saying, hey, what's going on?

Where's my based MAGA outcomes? Where are the

people arrested that I've been looking to see arrested? What's going on in Donald Trump's White House?

Dan Bongino, deputy director of the FBI, former right wing podcast host and kind of extended

MAGA Trump World infotainment universe figure is having that problem these days.

Here to talk about it, Will Sumner, our great reporter on the whole Wild and Wully right-wing media

space. Well, what's going on with FBI deputy director Dan Bonjino these days?

Yeah, sure. So Dan Bongino is taking this, you know, this former talk radio host is a podcast

guy. He's taking this kind of strange approach where he's constantly tweeting. Everyone's

stop bugging me. I'm working on and I'm working on it. You can't see what I'm working on. And so

that got me interested. More recently, he's been posting basically that the heat is on him because

a bunch of right-wing influencers, some people

at InfoWars, some people with Instagram accounts, I believe a guy named Gunner Eagleman.

They all got swatted. And so now Dan is on the case and they're saying, hey, why haven't you

caught this guy yet? I did not know that that had happened to my boy. Is it Gunner? I have like

Gunther or something.

Well, there's Gunner Thorterson and Gunner Eagleman. So there's two kind of, like, two similarly named MAGA influencers. Yeah, yeah, okay. Well, I had not heard that that had happened to this. So this is such a strange thing, right? I mean, like, swatting is a horrible, horrible phenomenon. It should happen to nobody. I assume people kind of know it's this, this kind of like weaponized crank calling, basically, where people call a police department and say, hey, you know, there's a violent crime taking place at this guy's home. Go check it out in tactical gear right away. It's violent. It can be dangerous. People answer their door and there's a SWAT team outside. It's a horrible thing. Shouldn't happen to anybody. Can you explain a little bit of background on why this is kind of a thing in MAGA media right now, why people have this on the mind and what they're expecting Gambon Gina to do about it? Yeah, sure. So, I mean, as you said, I mean, so these are these incidents where, you know, it's often weirdly, in this case, been preceded by a lot of unsolicited pizza deliveries and sort of in a creepy way. It's like a bunch of info wars people got hit. And an employee of theirs was recently murdered, like an actual murder unrelated to this. And so then they start getting pizzas in this guy, dead guy's name. And then suddenly the cops come. And it's very sinister stuff. And so, you know, not unreasonably, they've been expecting some FBI action. Now,

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