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The Wild with Chris Morgan

Dan Blumstein: Fear and listening to your inner marmot

The Wild with Chris Morgan

KUOW News and Information

Science, Nature

4.83.2K Ratings

🗓️ 16 July 2024

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Here’s an episode for movie buffs, music nuts, animal lovers, and anyone dealing with anxiety. Yes, that's quite the range in a 40-minute chat, but Dr Dan Blumstein delivers them all in a fascinating conversation with Chris about FEAR. Dan is a professor of conservation biology at UCLA and author of the book The Nature of Fear: Survival Lessons from the Wild. He spent his career trying to better understand the emotion by looking at marmots. He says that animals can help us better understand ourselves. And we will explore what makes a scream a scream, and how to embrace our fears.

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0:24.5

And thanks.

0:27.0

Hi everyone, Chris here.

0:28.7

I just wanted to let you know that we're expanding this season of the wild

0:32.0

to include three different types of episodes so you're

0:35.1

beginning even more great content from us every week.

0:38.9

First there's our new series on America's national, coming out every three weeks.

0:45.0

We'll also be presenting episodes featuring interviews with the sharpest minds in wildlife

0:50.3

conservation, and dipping into our archives and sharing our favorite shows from the past with new commentary from me.

0:58.0

Enjoy.

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Fear. It's in all of us. It's a survival mechanism that has helped keep our ancestors alive.

1:07.0

We wouldn't be here without it.

1:09.0

And there is one very common noise associated with fear.

1:14.0

Humans aren't the only creatures that produce such a shrill noise when shocked by fear.

1:24.0

Professor Dan Blumstein says that there is just something

1:27.8

about the physical nature of a scream

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that innately captures our attention.

1:33.0

This whole saga started when I was trapping baby marmets.

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I run a long-term study of marmets.

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I've been studying marmets for almost 40 years now. And I was holding a baby marmot and it screamed in my hands

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