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All right, welcome to the Risk Reversal podcast.

I'm Dan Nathan.

I am joined by a friend of mine named Dan

at Benton Capital Management. You're so much more than that, Dan. Welcome back to the pod.

Thank you, Dan. It's always pleasure to be you. All right. I got to give a little backdrop here.

So you were last on the pod in November of 2022. And we're going to talk a little bit about why that was such an interesting period. And you and I were doing a lot of tech talk back then.

But I just want to give the listener, if you weren't listening to the pod back then,

and maybe you're a little younger than me.

Dan was a legendary.

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