Hey, this is John Gordon with Positive You, and today I have a great guest.

I have a friend, also a co-author today, his name is Damon West.

Damon, how you doing?

John, I'm doing great, brother, what's going on, man?

Doing awesome.

We wrote the coffee bean together, and now we return with how to be a coffee bean.

Damon, how are these two books different?

What's the follow-up book like, and how is it different than our first book?

Yeah, so look, first of all, the coffee bean, this is where I first kind of like you get

an interest to the world with this podcast right here.

So it's really kind of cool to be back here four years later, because that's the longest

been, John.

It was a summer of 2019 when the coffee bean came out.

Remember when you called me in 2018, you said, hey, Damon, devil, give me your number.

So we wrote the book, The Coffee Bean, and it came out and it launched over the world,

John, because it's got that global publishing deal attached to it.

And I went around sharing the coffee bean message, and really my presentation is about

the five ways that I became a coffee bean when I heard this story, when I was serving

life in a prison.

But as the coffee bean message just has matured and has its grown up a little bit, and

as we've got to see, you and I both got to see it in the last four years, this message

has spread like wildfire, because remember what happened right after the book was published

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