Damon Garcia - Calling, Capitalism & Becoming Yourself (N369)
Nomad Podcast
Nomad
4.7 • 689 Ratings
🗓️ 25 May 2026
⏱️ 95 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, Damon Garcia joins us to explore the pressure of trying to find — and faithfully follow — God’s plan for your life. Growing up in a Pentecostal and charismatic church culture, Damon was taught that God had a specific calling for each person, and that missing it could mean missing the life you were meant to live. Damon reflects on the anxiety, striving, and self-surveillance that this way of thinking can create, as well as his own complicated journey into ministry and eventual departure from evangelicalism.
As the conversation unfolds, the lens widens beyond church culture to ask what happens when one version of calling collapses, only for another to take its place. From hustle culture and monetised gifts to the pressure to “become somebody”, Damon reflects on the ways capitalism shapes our understanding of purpose, success, and worth. Along the way, he offers a gentler alternative: a vision of “small, simple callings” rooted less in grand destiny and more in presence, grace, creativity, and the ordinary life in front of us.
Following the interview Nomad hosts Tim and Joy reflect on growing up in Pentecostal and charismatic church cultures where “calling” shaped everything from identity and relationships to work, status, and major life decisions. Together they explore the anxiety of trying to discern God’s plan, the hierarchies hidden within church culture, and the ways privilege, power, and gender shaped those callings.
Interview starts at 12m 24s
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | The |
| 0:07.0 | The Welcome back to Nomad Podcast. |
| 0:39.0 | I'm Tim Nash, and this is quite literally Joy Brooks. |
| 0:42.9 | Hello. |
| 0:43.8 | Not sure what a metaphorical Joy Brooks would look like, but might be worth reflecting on at some time. |
| 0:48.4 | A thing of beauty, I'm imagining. |
| 0:50.8 | Let's start off with something light, Joy. |
| 0:53.3 | What were you talking about with your therapist in the last session? |
| 0:56.5 | Yeah, no, that wasn't light at all. |
| 0:58.2 | I didn't think it would. |
| 1:00.2 | Yeah. |
| 1:01.1 | Is it ever light? |
| 1:02.0 | Do you ever have kind of light and breezy therapy sessions? |
| 1:04.9 | I mean, I like to think I'm also quite hilarious to work with. |
| 1:08.5 | I can't help but have a bit of humor and see the funny side of |
| 1:11.8 | stuff. But yeah, I think last session we were kind of locking in a bit to teenage me, |
| 1:18.4 | which I haven't spent loads of time within therapy. Interesting. And yeah, then I spent the |
| 1:22.9 | next week feeling as if I had a teenage version of myself kind of following me around, threatening to take over the show at any given moment. I don't enjoy that. So... |
| 1:33.2 | That's interesting in it, because we talk about like the inner child, but I don't hear people talking about the inner teenager. Is that a thing? |
| 1:38.9 | Well, I discovered it is. And the thing with my inner teenager is that she has internalised a lot of the patriarchy |
| 1:45.9 | and misogyny. So she's not wildly impressed with, my therapist sort of said something along the |
| 1:51.9 | lines of how does she feel about allowing herself to be cared for by you as an adult? And I said, |
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