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Daisy Hernández argues 'Citizenship' has never been a fixed legal status

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4.2671 Ratings

🗓️ 19 March 2026

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Author Daisy Hernández grew up in New Jersey in a community she describes as “the United Nations of Latinos,” with parents from Cuba and Colombia and relatives from Puerto Rico and Peru. Her new book Citizenship uses her family story to trace the history of citizenship in the United States. In today’s episode, she speaks with NPR’s Emily Kwong about the concept of “social citizenship” and why American citizenship fails to fit into a fixed legal definition.

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0:00.0

Hey, it's Empire's Book of the Day. I'm Andrew Limbong. Any immigrant or immigrant family

0:07.1

knows that citizenship can often feel like the last piece of a puzzle. You spend years and

0:12.8

years jumping through hoops, filling out this form, and that making sure your t's are crossed

0:16.5

and your eyes are dotted just for that one piece of paper that puts you on the other side of that

0:21.8

line. The official document that says you were once this and now you're that. Of course, things in

0:28.3

life are rarely so binary. The book Citizenship Notes on an American Myth by Daisy Hernandez

0:33.5

is an exploration into how complex the very concept of citizenship actually is.

0:40.1

She tells MPR's Emily Kwong that in America, we're constantly changing what it means to be

0:45.0

an American citizen.

0:46.4

That's ahead.

0:48.5

Citizenship is a game of tick-tac-toe.

0:51.2

Your father had a Cuban passport.

0:53.1

Your father won.

0:55.9

That's how Daisy Hernandez sets up her new book, Citizenship, Notes on an American Myth, a collection of essays that combines

1:01.8

history with memoir. The daughter of a refugee of Castro's Cuba and a mother from Colombia,

1:07.7

Hernandez presents the U.S. immigration system as a game whose rules are always changing.

1:13.5

Daisy Hernandez is with us now. Welcome to All Things Considered.

1:16.7

Hi. Thank you so much for having me.

1:18.8

Your mom is from Columbia and she told you stories about how she came to this country at bedtime.

1:24.5

You write about being a kid with your sister, like, in darkness, under the covers,

1:29.3

listening to her stories. And you write, quote, I learned as a child that citizenship was a private

1:33.7

story, one women told in the dark, where faces could not be seen. So I'm wondering, what made you

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