Daily: Why the West is complicit in China’s rise to power

The Bunker

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News, Politics, Society & Culture, Government

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🗓️ 9 February 2022

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Christine Lee’s recent designation as a Chinese agent of influence by MI5 has breathed new life into calls to reassess the country’s influence in Westminster. Yet as the world’s second-largest economy, China is widening its reach across the globe – and democratic nations are complicit. Journalist Joanna Chiu, author of China Unbound, tells Arthur Snell about its murky “United Front” and New Silk Road projects, whether Western ignorance equals wilful involvement in China’s authoritarian regime…and why Chinese immigrants should be better protected overseas. “Chinese politicians are expected to self-report.” “You have to feel sympathy for anyone trying to work within the Chinese legal system.” “China has designed laws to make its businesses complicit in its security regime.” “Western leaders created a narrative to justify and excuse their engagement with a foreign, authoritarian power.” “Chinese immigrants aren't welcomed for their expertise. They're treated with suspicion.” https://www.patreon.com/bunkercast Written and presented by Arthur Snell. Producers: Jacob Archbold and Jelena Sofronijevic. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Audio production by Alex Rees. Lead Producer: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production https://www.hurstpublishers.com/book/china-unbound/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:10.3	podcast in mid-January news broke in the UK that MI5, the Domestic Security Service,
1:17.1	had designated Christine Lee, a UK-based lawyer of Chinese origin, as a Chinese agent of influence who appeared to be targeting parliamentarians.
1:27.6	So it's very timely that we have the chance to speak to Joanna Chu who's an internationally recognized authority on China, whose work has appeared in a variety of high profile publications around the world.
1:40.0	Joanna is based in Canada where she covers China-related topics for the Toronto Star and she is recently the publisher of China Unbound, a New World Disorder, a book that examines China as a superpower and the way it acts in order to
1:56.6	get its way around the world.
1:58.5	So Joanna, welcome to the bunker.
2:00.3	Hey Alfred, thank you so much for having me.
2:02.4	As I mentioned in the introduction, this comes at a time when unusually perhaps the British public has some awareness of the fact that China seeks to influence British politics, which is an issue that is probably
2:17.4	normally ignored.
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