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The Bunker – News without the nonsense

Daily: Why strongmen fail the leadership test

The Bunker – News without the nonsense

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🗓️ 13 October 2020

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

If we’re living in an era of strongmen, why are so many (male) leaders failing us all over the world? How do our ideas of leadership need to change? Dr Pippa Malmgren, co-author with Chris Lewis of The Infinite Leader and former economic advisor to President George W Bush, tells Alex Andreou why leaders need to lead differently – why we have to stop rewarding psychopaths – and what we can all learn from Donald Trump.  “We’re seeing leadership failures in every category of the economy. Leaders are failing us everywhere.” “We’re training people to exercise psychopathic leadership, not empathetic leadership.” “You might see better leadership skills from a single parent than from the CEO of a major company.”  “The media want certainty – but the public is very tolerant of leaders who say ‘We don’t know – let’s try and find out.’”  “Trump’s delivery is provocative and obnoxious – but he’s very good at creating an emotional response, and emotions move the audience.”  “Some leaders are all about ME and some are all about WE. And we need more WE.”  Presented by Alex Andreou. Produced by Andrew Harrison. Assistant producer Jacob Archbold. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Audio production by Alex Rees. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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photography but I turn it into earning a living at 60. I enrolled on a day course.

0:11.8

Well college. I loved going to college. It's good you can retry. I'm enrolled on the day course. But college?

0:13.0

I loved going to college.

0:14.0

It's good you can retrain and do something.

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look after theirs with dental life. Pick up dental life in the pet food aisle. Hello and welcome to another edition of the Bunker Daily. I am your host, Alex Andreu. More than at any point in my lifetime,

1:17.0

the last few years have brought pretty profound reflection on leadership. What is it? How does it manifest itself? Is it a talent or a skill?

1:26.8

In an age of binaries, as more and more countries divide down the middle with voters seeing

1:31.8

the captain at their helm as either strong or wrong,

1:36.1

politics has ceased to be a conversation about solutions and has become a tug of war between

1:41.3

polar opposite values. My guest today is Dr.

1:45.6

Pippa Malmgren, co-author of the new book The Infinite Leader, along with

1:51.1

entrepreneur and regular collaborator Chris Lewis.

1:54.2

Dr. Malgram's resume is so interesting and varied.

1:58.0

It would probably take up two-thirds of this short podcast to list for achievements,

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