My name is Stan. I'm at. Nice to meet you. So you took up photography where? I've always loved

photography but I turn it into earning a living at 60. I enrolled on a day course.

Well college. I loved going to college. It's good you can retry. I'm enrolled on the day course. But college?

I loved going to college.

It's good you can retrain and do something.

Yeah, yeah.

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Jews don't count. Welcome David. Hello Nick, how you doing? I'm not too bad.

David, we are talking as a good time for this book,

I would say a good bad time in that there is a war

between Israel and Hamas going on as we speak and all the arguments that you're taking on

are kind of condensed into this moment because people who still can't see your point would say,

hold on, Badele, all we are doing is responding to Israeli oppression of the Palestinians and talk of anti-semitism is just a rather

de-reptial way of distracting attention from that. How does your book deal with charges like that

which one here's all the time? Well the book makes a sort of

point of not spending a lot of time dealing with the issue of Israel. It's part of the book's kind of polemic that discussion,

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