Daily: TURKEY AND GREECE – Bad Blood and Lots Of It, with author Defne Suman

The Bunker

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🗓️ 12 August 2021

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Aegean neighbours Greece and Turkey have been rivals for centuries – and both countries are prone to forgetting the “unfortunate episodes” in their relations with the other. Can they ever get past their infamous regional enmity? Alex Andreou talks to Turkish author and columnist Defne Suman – whose latest novel, The Silence of Scheherazade, looks at a flashpoint of the Greek-Turkish relationship, the Great Fire of Smyrna – about historical silences, lost cultures and the way forward. “It's hard to remove the word ‘invasion’ from the heads of Turkish people.” “I talk about the Greek ‘administration’, not the Greek invasion.” “Turkey today is actually not as cosmopolitan as it was during the Ottoman period.” “Nationalism is the disease of our century.” “If you don't talk about the past, that wound will kill you.” “Turkey needs a lot of healing. And culture and storytelling lets us heal ourselves from the wounds of the past.” Presented by Alex Andreou. Produced by Andrew Harrison. Assistant producers: Jelena Sofronijevic and Jacob Archbold. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Audio production by Alex Rees. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:17.4	most vividly for one thing, what I perceive to be an entire missing chapter.
1:24.0	The chapter on the Great Wall finished.
1:26.8	We were told that being on the losing side destabilized the Ottoman Empire,
1:31.5	which sharpened the appetites of great European powers who were interested in the region.
1:36.0	It ended with the words to the effect,
1:39.0	what followed was a most unfortunate episode in Greek history.
1:44.0	But when you turned the page, the episode was missing.
1:48.0	Time had jumped forward to the destruction of Asia Minor in 1922, complete with a full page oil painting of frightening
1:56.9	Ottomans wearing kavuk turbines wielding curved yatagan swords, slaughtering innocent babes and pushing desperate women into the sea,
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