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The Bunker

Daily: “The Police couldn’t get arrested!” – MILES COPELAND’s maverick life in music

The Bunker

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News, Politics, Society & Culture, Government

4.6984 Ratings

🗓️ 1 August 2021

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

What if you discovered that your Dad was living a double life, and really worked in the CIA? Does managing The Police prepare you for advising the Pentagon? From his chateau in France, maverick music manager Miles Copeland chats to Dorian Lynskey about his memoirs Two Steps Forward, One Step Back, moving from the Middle East and London, and how his record label IRS launched the careers of The Go-Gos, The Bangles, and R.E.M. “I already knew my Dad was in the CIA when I was fourteen years old.” “If you don't LIKE the music, how can you really sell it?” “When I heard Roxanne, I knew it was a song that would change our lives.” “Most bands think once they've made it, then they’ve made it. But what goes up must come down.” “There are many Iraqi women who preferred life under Saddam Hussein.” Presented by Dorian Lynskey. Produced by Andrew Harrison. Assistant producers Jelena Sofronijevic and Jacob Archbold. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Audio production by Alex Rees. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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photography but I turn it into earning a living at 60. I enrolled on a day course.

0:11.8

Well college. I loved going to college. It's good you can retry. I'm enrolled on the day course. But college?

0:13.0

I loved going to college.

0:14.0

It's good you can retrain and do something.

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Yeah, yeah.

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look after theirs with dental life. Pick the biggest characters in the music business, best known for managing the police and co-founding IRS records. He's also played a key role in the careers of the likes of REM, the bangles, the go-go-goes, the cramps, the falls, squeeze, the Crams, the Falls, Squeeze,

1:22.8

fine young cannibals, and William Orbit.

1:24.8

Even before all that, his life was fascinating.

1:26.9

He grew up in the Middle East because his father, Miles-Ax Copeland Jr,

1:30.5

was one of the founding members of the CIA. He tells the whole story in his new

1:34.0

memoir two steps forward, one step back. Miles Copeland, thanks for joining me.

1:38.0

Well nice to be here. Where are you at the moment?

1:41.0

I'm in France actually. Oh, is is that place you've had for a while?

1:44.5

Yeah, as I mentioned in the book, I, one of my crazier moments after I sold the record company,

1:50.3

I bought this castle in France and that's where I am at the moment.

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