Daily: Road-trip to the Red Wall – Sebastian Payne and Nick Cohen on Labour’s lost direction

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🗓️ 30 September 2021

⏱️ 31 minutes

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The Red Wall has been the backbone of Labour's vote in the Midlands and the North of England. But in 2019, it dramatically turned blue for the first time in living memory. So what do we get wrong about the Red Wall? Nick Cohen talks to the Financial Times’ Sebastian Payne about his new book, Broken Heartlands, his time in ten constituencies across the North, and what Labour needs to do to recover regional electoral support. “The collapse of the Red Wall has been gradual, then sudden.” “Brexit broke the umbilical cord between collectivised communities.” “I couldn't tell you a single soundbite from Ken Clarke's career. But he told a convincing narrative.” “There is nothing inevitable about demographics in this country.” Presented by Nick Cohen. Produced by Andrew Harrison. Assistant producers: Jelena Sofronijevic and Jacob Archbold. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Audio production by Alex Rees. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production https://www.hive.co.uk/Product/Sebastian-Payne/Broken-Heartlands--A-Journey-Through-Labours-Lost-England/25842557 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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