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What are some of those igniting moments? What can be the turning point?

And if you were coming up with a list, sure, a major attack by a near-peer foreign power

or military strike, right? That might send you into a rough financial situation for a while.

A huge oil shock, massive disruption in the energy markets. That could create real problems.

Stock market crash. Sure. That's another one that sends the economy into a tail spin.

But if you're looking at something, if you're wondering what can really just put an economy

flat on its back in what feels like the blink of an eye when it's happening, bank failures.

That's something you really have to avoid at all costs. And as we all can remember,

that was in the case of Lehman Brothers with an investment bank, what got us

started with the plunge into the great recession of 2008.

Now, maybe this is all able to be patched up for the most part. There's going to be

negative consequences of this. But as I speak to you right now, you have to look at an incident

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