As soon as there's a gap between your external actions and your inner values, you create a void

internally. Within that void that you create, that's where your problematic behaviors come in.

Right? When there's no void, those behaviors can't get in.

Yeah, you're just rock solid. Why do I feel like behavior change is relatively easy?

I feel more than

ever before. I'm sure I can improve. I was a people pleaser for most of my life. I'm not anymore.

Now, it's not about external validation. It's about internal validation. Can I look at myself in the

mirror before I go to bed each night and go, yeah, actually wrong. And you behaved in a course with

your values today.

Dr. Chatterjee, yay! I'm super excited to be there. I know, me too. I'm, you know, I have been

following you for a very long time and have such deep admiration and respect for the work that you do

and the education that you put out online is

just, you know, it's helping millions. And I recently had the opportunity to read your new book,

make change that lasts. And it's such an important contribution because being human is hard.

Changing behavior is really, really hard. And I think, you know, there are so many wonderful subtext to the

book that we're going to get into. But I want to start by talking about waking up to what is

tying you down. And I'd love for you to start from your own personal vantage point. You know,

what was kind of tying you down? And how can people think about

that as a concept in their life and be more aware? Because that seems like the place to start.

Yeah, I mean, look, I'm sure people listening to this podcast are thinking about change all the time.

How can I make meaningful and positive changes in my life?

Okay. And when I think about change and habits, I think about them in two different levels.

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