Daily: PAUL MASON on how to stop fascism

The Bunker

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🗓️ 5 August 2021

⏱️ 34 minutes

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From Modi’s India to Bolsonaro’s Brazil and Erdogan’s Turkey, the far right is on the rise around the world. Are we really on the brink of resurgent fascism? And if so, how do we fight it? Political journalist Paul Mason tells Dorian Lynskey about his radical blueprint for defeating the extreme right, outlined in his new book How to Stop Fascism. Why is trust in democracy collapsing around the world, and can what progressives do to win it back? “People like Trump and Bolsonaro don’t want to play the globalisation game and they don’t want to play the democracy game either” “We’re not dealing with a tribute band to Nazism. We’re dealing with a new form of Nazism” “Fascism is always violent. It’s now become obsessed with ethnicity rather than nation” “One in five people serving jail for terrorism in the UK are from the far-right. Soon that could be one in two” “Very little is taught about how the Nazis came to power. That is something we need to get our head around” Presented by Dorian Lynskey. Produced by Andrew Harrison. Assistant producers: Jelena Sofronijevic and Jacob Archbold. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Audio production by Alex Rees. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:18.8	and Channel Vore News, before going freelance in 2016. He writes regularly for the new statement as the author of seven books
1:24.4	including his latest How to Stop Fascism. Paul Mason, thanks for joining me.
1:28.0	It's a pleasure. So in 2012 you published Why It's kicking off everywhere, it's based on reporting around the Arab Spring and the Occupy Movement and so on.
1:37.0	And when it came out you told an interviewer, the worst thing would be if we ended up in three years with an acutely polarized social situation in a Western country
1:44.3	and the entire elite going where the heck did this come from who is the bloke with a small moustache you've got to arm yourself
1:50.4	against these eventualities. Yeah.
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1:59.5	you know, sort of positive strand to some of your books.
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