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The Bunker – News without the nonsense

Daily: How to CANCEL CANCEL CULTURE with Matthew D’Ancona and Nick Cohen

The Bunker – News without the nonsense

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News, Government, Politics, Society & Culture

4.61K Ratings

🗓️ 5 June 2021

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

With the new populist Conservatives stoking culture wars, is identity politics becoming progressives’ self-inflicted weakness? Friend of the podcast and former editor of The Spectator, Tortoise’s Matthew d’Ancona joins Nick Cohen to discuss why populism is destined to fail, his new book, Identity, Ignorance, Innovation: Why The Old Politics Is Useless And What To Do About It, and leaving the cinema to find fifteen missed calls from Boris Johnson… “In every generation, there is a progressive moment – and this is it.” “There are always new elites, and there is going to be a Boris elite.” “The kind of conservatism I was suggesting in the 1990s doesn't really exist anymore.” Presented by Nick Cohen. Produced by Andrew Harrison. Assistant producers Jelena Sofronijevic and Jacob Archbold. Music by Kenny Dickinson. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production https://www.hive.co.uk/Product/Matthew-dAncona/Identity-Ignorance-Innovation--Why-the-old-politics-is-us/25426615 See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:05.5

photography but I turn it into earning a living at 60. I enrolled on a day course.

0:11.8

Well college. I loved going to college. It's good you can retry. I'm enrolled on the day course. But college?

0:13.0

I loved going to college.

0:14.0

It's good you can retrain and do something.

0:16.0

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1:12.8

I'm Nick Cohen and I am delighted today

1:16.2

to be joined by Matthew Dankona,

1:18.9

former editor of a spectator,

1:21.0

now with Tortoise, rights everywhere, thinks about everything and is the author of

1:27.0

identity, ignorance and innovation and what to do about it.

1:32.3

Matt, welcome, thank you for joining us.

1:35.0

Thanks, good to be here.

1:37.0

Matt, this is a vast book covers an awful lot of ground.

1:41.0

I thought we might begin to give the listener some idea of your

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