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The Bunker – News without the nonsense

Daily: How REAGANISM still ruins America – with historian Rick Perlstein

The Bunker – News without the nonsense

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🗓️ 18 August 2021

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

World War II seemed to mark the end of American conservatism, and a new liberal age. Then Reagan came along – and we’re still living with the consequences. What explains the dominance of conservatism in modern American politics? Historian Rick Perlstein talks to Dorian Lynskey about his new book, Reaganland, the finale of a three-part saga about the cutthroat strategies of the conservatives behind America’s rightwards shift… “Reagan’s inauguration was a hinge in American history.” “Before Reagan, conservatism was seen as irrelevant in America.”  1970s America was looking for a hero. They were looking for Superman, not moral ambiguity.”  “Reagan wanted to write a book about how he fought the Reds of Hollywood…he was living a fantasy in his own head.” “It’s the difference between the dog whistle and the train whistle.” Presented by Dorian Lynskey. Produced by Andrew Harrison. Assistant producers: Jelena Sofronijevic and Jacob Archbold. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Audio production by Robin Leeburn. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production   https://www.hive.co.uk/Product/Rick-Perlstein/Reaganland--Americas-Right-Turn-1976-1980/25991906 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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look after theirs with dental life. Pick up dental life in the pet food aisle. Hello, a welcome to the bunker daily. I'm Dorian Linsky. My guest today is one of the essential historians of Modern America.

1:14.0

20 years ago he published Before the Storm a book about presidential candidate Barry Goldwaters

1:19.0

1964 attempt to turn the Republican Party into an ideological conservative project.

1:23.4

His latest book, Reagan Land, America's Right Turn, completes a tetrology about the rise of conservatism

1:28.5

from Goldwater to Reagan, which doubles as a gripping narrative history of American life during that period.

1:33.6

It's an astonishing body of work, I'm delighted to have the opportunity to talk to him.

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Rick Perlstein, thanks for joining me.

1:38.4

Glad to be here.

1:39.3

When you published Before the Storm, how far did you think you would end up going with this story?

1:45.0

Oh, I conceptualized a series of books on the Rizer Reagan.

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