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🗓️ 6 December 2020

⏱️ 23 minutes

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The Salisbury poisonings were an infamous example of Russian interference in British security. But were they really the first time Novichok was used on British soil? Former US Army chemical warfare specialist and author of Toxic: A History of Nerve Agents From Nazi Germany to Putin's Russia Dan Kaszeta talks to Arthur Snell about assassination, clandestine state conflict, Navalny, and the psychological side of chemical warfare. “Running alongside the nuclear arms race was a lesser known, but equally important chemical arms race.” “The method is the message. People who don’t like the Russian regime end up dead.” Presented by Arthur Snell. Produced by Andrew Harrison. Assistant producers Jelena Sofronijevic and Jacob Archbold. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Audio production by Alex Rees. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:29.2	But then their situation quickly became rapidly far more serious.
1:33.6	They were rushed into intensive care and we realized that they had been poisoned with Novichok, a nerve agent.
1:40.3	This was the first time a nerve agent had been used on British soil and represented an extraordinary escalation by the Russians against British security.
1:52.0	But what exactly is a nerve agent and what exactly was going on there
1:56.0	and more broadly in this strange world? Well there's nobody better place to help us understand that
2:01.9	than our guest today Dan Kajeta. Dan is the author of Toxic,
2:06.1	a history of Nove agents and he is himself a former US Army chemical warfare specialist
2:12.4	and has continued to work in this field.
2:14.5	So Dan, welcome to the bunker.
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