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For the past few years, I've seen a lot of hand-wringing about Governor Ron DeSantis' agenda to end what he calls woke indoctrination.

But we wanted to know, what does that mean?

And how does this agenda actually affect the people living and working there?

Especially those who have benefited from the diversity, equity, and inclusion programs

that DeSantis' policies would uproot.

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Welcome to the Daily Hammer and Happy New Year Braves Country.

Sean Coleman here with you with the Talking Chop podcast network and the Daily Hammer.

You can find myself at Stats, SAC, on Twitter.

Of course, the Daily Hammer is part of the Talking Chop podcast network

with the Talking Chop podcast, of course, the Road to Atlanta podcast, all the great written

content at Talking Chop.com and at Talking Chop across all forms of social media. And I am very

happy to welcome former Talking Chopper, but one half of the great duo over at the Platinum

Sombrough podcast, Mr. Adam Herbert, you can find him at Braves Herbert, but also is Doc Herbert.

So many names. We'll go with Doc. Adam, Doc, whatever. How are you doing this afternoon, sir?

I hope great, Sean. Thank you so much for having me back.

I've been thinking about doing this episode ever since we wrapped up the last one. This is such

a fun little series. I mean, what Adam is referring to is the fact that we are doing a

mini series, not too good, too good with organization, but, you know,

over the next several weeks, we'll probably do probably about four or five more of these.

Back in early December, we did our first retracing the steps to a title, looking at how

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