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Chris, we're in the studio on these comfortable chairs.

How's your back feeling?

Yeah, look at that face.

You see, he's pulling the face of a man who started to think about his back.

Sit down for a little while and your back starts to hurt.

Movement is medicine, Chris.

Really honestly, my back was bugging me

when we started recording WhatsApp docs.

And there have been three experts.

Each one of them has said a little different thing

and my back is now in good shape.

I'm just doing a little bit every day for it.

A few bridges, a bit of core, not worrying about it too much.

Chris, I'm thrilled to hear that What's Up Docs has been good for your back because in today's

daily dose we are looking back on the episode on Bax. That's right, Zandi. We're talking to Dr. Mindy Kens, who is a specialist

musculoskeletal physiotherapist and associate professor at the University of Hertfordshire.

She joined us and I think she was really helpful about how we can trust our backs a little bit

more than we think. Fear avoidance in back pain is a massive, massive area. It's very well research. We know,

and it's kind of a human condition, isn't it? Something hurts. I'm not going to move

right. Now, actually, that's one of the worst things you can do if you've got a simple, mechanical,

sort of non-specific low back pain. It's different if you've been in a high impact road traffic accident and you're in acute pain, yeah, don't move. You wait for those good paramedics to come. But for someone like you, Chris, actually what you're probably doing is tensing up, all your muscles are tensing. They're compressing all those discs and nerves and things and they're all pain sensitive. And it's probably making things worse. So actually what you probably need to do is just move a bit more normally.

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