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The Bunker – News without the nonsense

Daily: Does POWER make BAD PEOPLE? With Brian Klaas

The Bunker – News without the nonsense

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News, Government, Politics, Society & Culture

4.61K Ratings

🗓️ 6 January 2022

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

How would you behave as the dictator of Turkmenistan? Are bad people the only ones who get power - or does power make people worse? Host of the Power Corrupts podcast – and friend of ours! – Professor Brian Klaas talks to Alex Andreou about their latest book, Corruptible, learning from ski lessons with the likes of Paul Bremer…and what’s wrong with police recruitment videos. “Serial killers are not successful psychopaths, because they couldn't hide it. They're the ones in the boardroom and the office.” “Flat societies are not the answer. Western hierarchical societies are some of the safest places for humans to live.” “Good governance costs, but it’s a price well worth paying.” “Power corrupts gradually. The longer someone is in office, the worse they will become.”   Presented by Alex Andreou. Produced by Andrew Harrison. Assistant producers: Jelena Sofronijevic and Jacob Archbold. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Audio production by Alex Rees. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production https://brianpklaas.com/corruptible  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

My name is Stan. I'm at. Nice to meet you. So you took up photography where? I've always loved

0:05.5

photography but I turn it into earning a living at 60. I enrolled on a day course.

0:11.8

Well college. I loved going to college. It's good you can retry. I'm enrolled on the day course. But college?

0:13.0

I loved going to college.

0:14.0

It's good you can retrain and do something.

0:16.0

Yeah, yeah.

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look after theirs with dental life. Pick up dental life in the pet food aisle. Hello and welcome to the bunker daily. I am your host Alex Andrea.

1:13.0

Increasingly I view politics with bewilderment,

1:17.0

not just domestically but around the world.

1:19.0

Increasingly I find myself looking at people

1:22.0

who have been promoted or elected to power and I see a darkness.

1:27.0

I look at opinion polls and matter to myself,

1:30.0

what do others see that I just don't?

1:33.0

That question at times turned into existential crisis.

1:38.0

Brexit was my moment of truly growing up politically,

1:41.0

of realizing that even in a democracy, sometimes the bad people, the liars,

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