Hello and welcome back to Happy Mum, Happy Baby, Parenting SOS.

Now we know that new moms can have a tough time with their mental health during pregnancy

and after giving birth, but what about the dads?

Today I'm speaking to Elliot Ray, a leader in diversity, equality and inclusion, he's

a speaker on fatherhood, masculinity and men's mental health, founder of the music football

fatherhood parenting platform and author of Amazon Best Seller Dad.

He challenges traditional masculinity and promotes diversity through his book.

He also received a United Nation hashtag, he for She Award for his work and engaging men

in gender equality and co-founded the Working Dad's Employer Awards.

Gosh you've been busy Elliot, hello and welcome, we're thrilled to have you.

Is that me?

Did I do that?

You did all that, all that.

Thank you, it's nice to hear that back.

Sometimes you don't take stock of what you do, you're so busy on a day-to-day basis.

Yeah, it's amazing to be here, so thank you so much for having me.

No, too, does it feel quite bizarre that you found yourself now in this space where you're

advocating for Dad's mental health, maternal mental health, whereas years ago you wouldn't

have even thought that this would be a place that you would have found yourself.

Life is incredible, my wife always says your mess is your message and it's incredible.

I love that.

It's definitely true in my case.

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