Daddy Issues (with Ryan Holiday)

The Next Level

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.9 • 2.4K Ratings

🗓️ 11 June 2023

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

In the lead up to Father’s Day, author and podcast host Ryan Holiday joins Tim and JVL to talk the rewards and tribulations of being a dad. Ryan also talks to Tim about their similar experiences setting aside their less than moral professional careers to pursue more rewarding livelihoods.

Plus, Tim and JVL discuss the second indictment of Trump and the damning evidence against him.

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0:00.0	Hey guys this is Tim we're doing something a little bit different for the Sunday show this week because of all the news because of indictment too because I'm so high on my own supply with Donald Trump once again having to face the music. We had a really lengthy intro between me and
0:15.2	JVL where we got into this indictment what the ramifications are both legal and
0:21.3	political, you know some news that is broken since the Friday
0:24.4	podcast. We covered that. And then we have a two-part interview with Ryan
0:28.5	Holiday. The first is me and Ryan talking about his life and his career like me he was a a media
0:37.2	maven a rat-fucker maybe even and he decided he was unsatisfied with that he wrote a wonderful book called Trust Me I'm
0:44.3	lying about about marketing in the corporate world rather than the political world and then he took
0:49.7	a complete right turn in his career and now has a podcast empire, you know, where he
0:55.4	discuss stoicism and stoic virtues. I think that you can get a lot of value out
1:00.0	of that part of the podcast and then there's a second portion where we bring J. V. L. in and talk
1:04.4	about Ryan's new book, The Daily Dad. We do advice on being a dad. What's it like to be a
1:10.2	gay dad? What's it like to be a dad? What's it like to be a dad who's also a stoic expert in whether he lives up to his
1:16.3	principals? You will enjoy at least one of the three parts I promise. Up next is me and
1:21.4	JViel and then we'll bring in Ryan. Enjoy.
1:25.0	JVL, we've seen it.
1:28.0	Jack Smith dropped the hammer.
1:30.0	We have an indictment so before we get to our usual Sunday interview I figured we had to
1:34.4	chomp some wood on this what is your what's your reaction are you in the Hugh Hewitt
1:39.2	camp nothing to see here jeez, you chew it.
1:45.0	That guy, uh, it's really bad.
1:48.0	It's really, really bad.
1:51.0	It's also really stupid.
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