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Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

DAD'S DESPERATE SEARCH: IS TIK TOK GIRL MISSING AVA GRACE, 6?

Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

iHeartPodcasts and CrimeOnline

True Crime, News

3.97.6K Ratings

🗓️ 14 July 2025

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Conspiracy theories swarm social media with curiosity claiming Ava Grace Baldwin might have been found and no longer missing because she is making rounds on Tik Tok videos.  Some have even questioned is this the same Ava, Sean 'Diddy' Combs blasted out on social media he adopted. 

Ava Grace Baldwin disappears from her elementary school when she was just six years old, Ava's father, David Hopper, believes his daughter is with her non-custodial mother, Kathryn Ann Baldwin, his ex-wife, and that she is hiding Ava away from him. Ava would be a teenager now and was last seen in San Antonio, Texas on September 17, 2015. Kathryn Ann Baldwin, who has a felony warrant out for her for interfering with child custody.  David seems to think his ex-wife, bio mom of Ava Grace, maybe in hiding with the child to keep David from having a relationship with his daughter. 

Ava's mother and father, David Hopper, had joint custody of her. After Hopper requested full custody, Kathryn disappears with Ava Grace.  Kathryn's vehicle, a silver 2014 Ford Escape with the Illinois license plate number Q29-2793, was found abandoned in a parking lot on Whitby Road in San Antonio in April 2016, just seven months after the pair disappeared without a trace. 

Kathryn has a history of alcohol and prescription drug abuse, suffers from mental illness and is supposed to take medication, but there's been no record of her refilling her prescriptions since 2015. She and Ava may move frequently and may be staying in women's shelters and/or homeless shelters. Kathryn may tell people she is being stalked.

Kathryn's family states they haven't seen or heard from Kathryn or Ava since 2015 and they too believe both are dead, but Hopper thinks they are alive and in hiding, possibly being helped by friends or family. Kathryn has family in Texas, Oklahoma, California, Florida and Illinois, and friends in several parts of the country as well.

Ava's disappearance remains unsolved. She was involved in cheerleading, soccer, gymnastics, and tumbling prior to her disappearance.

Description and more information on Ava Grace Baldwin below.  

  • Missing Since09/17/2015
  • Missing FromSan Antonio, Texas
  • ClassificationFamily Abduction
  • SexFemale
  • RaceWhite
  • Date of Birth04/16/2009 (16)
  • Age5 years old
  • Height and Weight4'0, 60 pounds
  • Associated Vehicle(s)Silver 2014 Ford Escape with the Illinois license plate number Q29-2793 (accounted for)
  • Distinguishing Characteristics: Caucasian female. Blonde hair, hazel eyes. Ava may have a tooth missing in the top right side of her mouth.

Joining Nancy Grace today,

  • David Hopper - Father of Ava Grace Tina Hopper - Aunty of Ava Grace 
  • Darryl Cohen - Former Assistant District Attorney (Fulton County, Georgia) Former Assistant State Attorney (Florida), Defense Attorney, Cohen, Cooper, Estep, & Allen, LLC, CCEAlaw.com, Facebook: "Darryl B Cohen", Twitter: @DarrylBCohen
  • Ralph Garcia - Senior Sargent with the Bexar County District Attorney's Office in Texas, has been working this case since 2016, 30 years in Law Enforcement
  • Dr. Chloe Carmichael - Clinical Psychologist, Author: ‘Nervous Energy: Harness The Power of Your Anxiety”, Twitter: @DrChloe, drchloe.com 
  • Dave Mack-Investigative Reporter for CrimeOnline

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcript

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0:00.0

This is an IHeart podcast.

0:05.0

Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.

0:09.5

A dad's desperate search.

0:12.3

And at this hour is a TikTok girl.

0:16.3

Actually missing Eva Grace, age six.

0:20.5

Good evening. I'm Nancy Grace. This is crime stories. I want to thank

0:23.6

you for being with us. Search for a six-year-old, Ava Grace Baldwin, and her mother, Catherine Baldwin,

0:28.3

is cold from the very beginning, gets even colder when Catherine Baldwin's Ford Escape is

0:32.8

found abandoned in a parking lot on Whippy Road in San Antonio. David Hopper is awarded sole custody and a felony warrant issued for the arrest of the alleged abductor.

0:41.9

While Ava Grace's father, David Hopper, believes his daughter is alive.

0:46.1

Family do not concur.

0:47.8

They haven't seen or heard from Ava since 2015 and believe they're dead.

0:53.4

Hopper believes they're alive in hiding.

0:56.0

She has family in Texas, Oklahoma, California, Florida, and Illinois.

1:01.0

So that's kind of what we're thinking she might be hiding out or around that area.

1:05.0

And we believe that there are people there in the San Antonio area that helped her get out of the state.

1:10.0

So there's somebody there that knows where

1:12.2

she's at. Is this beautiful little girl, Ava Grace, still alive? Her father insists, yes, she is.

1:19.0

Is she being kept in hiding? And if so, why this as conspiracy theories emerge, identifying the little girl as a TikTok star.

1:30.9

Joining me an all-star panel, but first to a very special guest joining us tonight.

1:35.5

It's Ava Grace's father, David Hopper, and with him, Tina Hopper, Fulbright, Ava Grace's auntie.

1:46.6

To both of you, thank you for being with us. You know, David Hopper, Fullbright, Eva Grace's auntie. To both of you, thank you for being with us.

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