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Showing somebody perfection is not actually how you lead people, right?

And if I want to lead my family correctly, then I need to show them all parts of me.

And the vulnerable part is what actually started changing my relationship with my kids.

And that's when they noticed the switch.

I didn't break it up.

They brought it up.

And it's funny that we laugh about it now.

But it was a switch for them and they, it's completely different now.

Welcome to Family Life Today, where we want to help you pursue the relationships that matter most.

I'm Ann Wilson.

And I'm Dave Wilson, and you can find us at Family Life Today.com.

This is Family Life Today.

All right, so it's men's day at family life today.

And I've got the most manly men in the whole city of Orlando city.

Yes, you do.

I'll take that a pander.

George said, yes, we do. I'll take that.

That was George Rosario.

How do I say your last name? Rosario. That's the, that's the American version. What is it? Rosario. Wait, wait, say that again. Rosario. And then we got, you know, we got Brian Goans over there. I bet I can say. Boy, that's pretty easy. That's easy.

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