All right.

Welcome to the Conversations that Matter Podcast.

My name is John Harris and I got another interview this week.

I have Zach Garris with me and not Harris, Garris.

So it's a G, not an H but you know Zach you're a brave man because you know Zach you're a brave man because you know I have a I guess a career as a student right now in history and I've studied a lot of

antebellum sources and of course because of that I've had to be a little bit

familiar with the works of Robert Lewis Dabney but in today's day and age he's not a very popular guy and you just came out with a book called Dabney on fire which I think would probably be the situation a lot of people today would love to see Dabne in on fire but you of course meant that in a

positive way so why don't you tell me about why you decided to publish this

book and what you have gleaned from R. L. Dabney and just tell me a little about

yourself and what you're up to as well.

Sure, well a little bit about myself. I'm a seminary graduate, went to Reform Theological Seminary in Jackson, Mississippi, and I actually just finished law school, so kind of dabbling in two different fields. As far as

Dabney, you know 19th century Presbyterian pastor and theologian,

theologian, extremely influential

used to be considered a hero of the church,

certainly in Presbyterianism.

And he's really been dismissed.

You know, today he's essentially ignored by most even within

Presbyterian circles in my experience.

Yet he was, as I said, extremely important.

He was a leader in the Southern Presbyterian Church,

particularly after the war between the states.

And he was the first biographer of Stonewall Jackson.

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