For many years now, Russ and Craig have had many wide-ranging conversations with folks from all over the gaming world.

This is one of those conversations.

D6G, the last chapter.

Hey, and so we're back at Dunkin' Donuts.

And it's relatively empty again.

It is.

It is.

We're alone again.

Large coffee, extra cream, please.

Yeah, don't rub it in, man.

I'm doing this diet thing that Karen's doing, and I said I'd do it with her and I'm dying.

Is this the Neanderthal diet?

No, God.

No, I wish.

No, this is like this cleansing kind of thing where you're like the first two days I was

drinking these shakes instead of my meals and then I could get a small meal.

And then the last two days I've've been drinking this, like, juice drink, and that's all I've been able to eat or drink, except for little pieces of apple. Yeah. I would like nothing more right now than for us to really be in Dunkin' Donuts and me really being mowing down. Showning down to Boston Cream.

There you go.

That's what I would like.

And the fact, merely thinking about it

has got my stomach grumbling so much.

It's very hard for me to believe you don't hear it.

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