For many years now, Russ and Craig have had many wide-ranging conversations with folks from all over the gaming world.

This is one of those conversations.

D6G,

the lost chapter.

So, Craig,

I know you're not a big fan of the various...

No, but you know what I had?

What'd you have?

I had chocolate gingerbread.

I was going to ask you with the gingerbread donut.

Is it good?

Yeah, I didn't have a gingerbread donut, but I didn't have a gingerbread coffee.

And I don't like gingerbread, but it was a very socially awkward moment where my mother seemed to be disappointed that I wasn't getting a quote holiday drink that's what I would be your mom is clearly a well educated individual yeah yeah like I went to we went out she wanted a picture of Reese so we all so the three of us out, and so I could like sort of run herd on my son.

And then she started springing us on the, and then we'll go for a holiday drink.

And I had no idea what she meant.

But Reese seemed excited.

And yeah, so what she meant was like coffee drinks and I wasn't going to get anything.

And the next thing you know, she was like, oh, you're not getting anything.

So she guilt-trip me and the best I could come up with was gingerbread.

And it wasn't so bad.

Gingerbread is awesome.

I haven't tried the gingerbread donut yet.

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