For many years now, Russ and Craig have had many wide-ranging conversations with folks from all over the gaming world.

This is one of those conversations.

D6G, the lost chapter.

And so I was like walking around in the 40K hall. Yeah. And you figure from the last time we talked to John, of course, that you wouldn't see him in the 40K hall, right? No, that's what I thought, you know. And then there he is. And he's got his little judge shirt on. And oh, my God, there he is. There he is now. Look. John, what are you doing in? John, you should really wash the judge shirt. It's been like two weeks since then.

Well, it's a good thing. They like my judge shirt here at Dunkin' Donuts, so they give me free donuts when I wear my judge shirt. I was wondering. That's awesome. Well, welcome, John. Good to see you. Good to see you. See you. I just saw John like a week ago. I know. It's good to see you, John. I'm really sorry. I missed you at Adepticon. So what is your favorite donut here at Dunkin' Donuts? You ask me every time. I do. My favorite donut is not sold at Dunkin' Donuts. It is very depressing. It is depressing. How about a coffee? It's okay, John. Tonight, I don't have, I smuggled food in myself tonight.

I like that. It is very depressing. It is depressing. How about a coffee? It's okay, John. Tonight, I don't have, I smuggled food in myself tonight.

I like the buttermilk bar, which is not apparently sold in Dunkin'Lona. It's also not sold in New England. I don't know what that is. But we talked about that before. But can I buy you a coffee? because I'm guessing you've been putting in a lot of late nights and long days working on this new project you've been working on.

Sure, I will take a coffee.

There you go. Because I'm guessing you've been putting in a lot of late nights and long days working on this new project you've been working on.

Sure, I will take a coffee.

There you go.

So this project... Now that the role playing is out of time.

So this project John's been working on, is this new game that he had...

Now, we're not at liberty at this point to talk about the game.

In the main show coming shortly after this last chapter, we will talk in grueling detail about all the mechanics and the models and all the cool things that are making this new game.

Cool. But we wanted to ask John, since we got him here at Dunkin Donuts, um, what was the process of getting into, you know, why did you even do this? game. Cool. But we wanted to ask John, since we got him here at Dunkin' Donuts, what was the process of getting into it?

You know,

why did you even do this?

Right.

Well, you start as like the guy.

Yeah.

About like the rules guru of 40K

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