For many years now, Russ and Craig have had many wide-ranging conversations with folks from all over the gaming world.

This is one of those conversations.

D6G, the lost chapter.

Hey, Craig, it's always good to be back in Dunkin' Donuts this time of year.

Do you know what makes Duncan Donuts awesome in the fall? What makes Dunkin' Donuts awesome in the fall, Russ? Pumpkin. Pumpkin makes Dunkin' Donuts. It's the pumpkin. Wait, is that Eric Summer over there? Ordering a donut? Are there any that aren't pumpkin spice? It's that voice's amazing Eric how are you sir how I'm

with him with the pumpkin anything but oh how can you be how can you be um hating on the pumpkin

Eric you know I'm fine with a little bit of pumpkin I think it's just getting ridiculous how

much pumpkin there is everywhere it's's true. It's true.

I just want a regular donut. All right. A regular. Now, Eric, when it's not pumpkin season, what is your favorite donut? I go for the cream filled. The Bavarian or Boston filled cream donut. That is my donut du jour. Yeah, being in New Englander, I know you're from Connecticut. We'll just say you chose Boston Cream also and just leave it at that.

Sure.

We've been trying to explain to the Canadian guests on this show occasionally that it is not a, as they like to call it, cream-filled chocolate covered donut. It is a Boston Cream Don't know. There you go. We're just evangelizing proper naming conventions. Just don't be ridiculous. Yeah, let's be, let's be simple. I mean, it. So we're just evangelizing the proper naming conventions. Just don't be ridiculous.

Yeah, let's be, let's be simple.

I mean, international.

So, Eric, you know, I don't know, since you're here and can I buy your coffee? What would you like in your coffee? Just plain, that's cream? Let me get a cream and two sugars. All right, fair enough. Yeah. So, yeah, so one thing that came up, it was good to see you, by the way, Gen Con, that was an awesome time. Yeah.

I wish we got to spend more than together.

Oh, that was an epic thing that came up, it was good to see you, by the way, Gen Con, that was an awesome time.

Yeah.

I wish we got to spend more time together. Oh, that was an epic Gen Con, wasn't it? It was a good year this year. We had a lot of fun. But one thing that came up at both the Dice Tower epic event. I don't know how to describe. What do you guys call that thing this year? because it was the biggest ever, right? It was huge.

We called it our live, I don't know diced tower live adventure but this was the first time we were in the

big ballroom right the 500 ballroom at the convention center in previous years we'd been

stuck in various rooms in various hotels getting bigger each year uh but this is the first time that Jen Con said, okay, I guess you can go for the big room.

And this one had like security.

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