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It Could Happen Here

CZM Rewind: What Can You Do? Mutual Aid Along the Migrant Journey

It Could Happen Here

Cool Zone Media and iHeartPodcasts

News, Daily News, Society & Culture, Politics

4.06.5K Ratings

🗓️ 2 January 2026

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

James' final episode looks at the people helping migrants once they leave the Darién Gap, and how you can help.

Donation links for groups featured in this series: 

Border Kindness: https://borderkindness.org/donate/
Al Otro Lado: https://alotrolado.networkforgood.com/projects/63833-al-otro-lado-fund
Fe Y Alegria: https://www.feyalegria.org/en/home-fya-international/

Original Air Date: 11.1.24

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Transcript

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.6

Guaranteed Human.

0:06.0

It's me, James.

0:08.7

And before we listen to this episode today,

0:10.1

I just did want to make you aware

0:11.4

that I conducted these interviews in French and Spanish,

0:14.4

mostly Spanish,

0:15.7

and then transcribed and translated them.

0:18.4

So what you're hearing is a translated interview

0:20.2

that's been edited for brevity and content.

0:22.9

I hope you enjoy the episode.

0:55.0

I'm trying to. It takes the grace of God for you to actually stand by and say, no, I'll keep on struggling. There are a lot of people who gave up. There are a lot of people who start and they cry. Someone died. The lady died. We met people who were crying. Yeah, yesterday. We met people who were crying.

1:01.4

They didn't know how they could continue. It's not an easy situation. It's not really an easy situation. At least it's just the grace of God for us surviving. Because I can say it's by my

1:07.4

strength. It's actually the grace of God God because what we actually went to we met people

1:12.4

who even collapsed we had to help them you meet your brother you give a lifting hand it's not really

1:18.7

an easy thing it's not something that if we are fine tomorrow can advise any of our family members

1:24.6

to go through because it's so deadly. It's risky.

1:29.3

If your family member is in there and it's not out, it takes

1:31.2

the grace of God for you to even lie on your

1:33.4

bed and close all your eyes.

1:35.4

I ever once, I survived by the grace of God

1:37.4

because I almost drowned.

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