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Weird Little Guys

CZM Rewind: The White House Weighs in on White Genocide & Apartheid International

Weird Little Guys

iHeartPodcasts and Cool Zone Media

Society & Culture, True Crime

4.61.1K Ratings

🗓️ 23 December 2025

⏱️ 105 minutes

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Summary

For the end of the year reruns, Weird Little Guys is revisiting the longest, strangest story of 2025 - the South Africa arc. Those eight episodes tell the strange story of how one little skinhead rally in California in 2012 connects to a vast international conspiracy to stop the election of Nelson Mandela in 1994.

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The White House Weighs in on White Genocide

Original Air Date: 2.27.25

In February of 2012, racist skinheads in California rallied at the capitol building in Sacramento. They were trying to raise awareness for an imaginary problem - an ongoing genocide against white South African farmers. In February of 2025, the President of the United States signed an executive order stripping foreign aid from South Africa as punishment for that same imaginary problem.

Sources:

Falkof, Nicky. (2022). Worrier state: Risk, anxiety and moral panic in South Africa. Manchester University Press.

Whiteness, Afrikaans, Afrikaners: Addressing Post-Apartheid Legacies, Privileges and Burdens. The Mapungubwe Institute for Strategic Reflection (MISTRA), 2018.

Holmes, Carolyn. Victimhood for an Audience: Portrayals of Extra-Lethal Violence and their Utility for Self-Identified Victims
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5b6672f43c3a5320c2bec900/t/5c98fd14a4222fc0ef950ccd/1553530134194/Victimhood+for+an+Audience+-+March+2019.pdf 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/23/white-farmers-trump-south-africa-tucker-carlson-far-right-influence

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/23/trump-orders-close-study-of-south-africa-farmer-killings

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ted-cruz-staff-usaid-met-group-called-apartheid-so-called-injustice_n_5af5dcb6e4b00d7e4c1a6571

https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hate-watch/anti-genocide-protests-around-nation-were-organized-neo-nazis/

https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hate-watch/campus-group-weighs-south-african-violence-targeting-whites/

https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hate-watch/dangerous-myth-white-genocide-south-africa/

https://africasacountry.com/2018/02/searching-for-white-genocide-in-south-africa/

https://unicornriot.ninja/2018/far-right-racists-push-fake-south-africa-white-genocide-narrative/

https://goodauthority.org/news/misinformation-south-africa-new-land-act-trump-musk/

https://www.jurist.org/features/2025/02/11/explainer-understanding-the-south-africa-land-reform-law-that-provoked-trumps-ire/

https://www.mediamatters.org/tucker-carlson/tucker-carlson-fearmongers-about-land-reform-south-africa

https://www.mediamatters.org/tucker-carlson/trumps-south-africa-tweet-tucker-carlson-has-turned-white-nationalist-narrative

https://africacheck.org/sites/default/files/Final-Report-Committee-of-Inquiry-Farm-Attacks-July-2003.pdf 

https://africasacountry.com/2018/05/flight-of-the-boers 

https://www.news24.com/News24/afriforums-own-farm-murder-stats-dont-support-their-claims-20180507 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-15/dutton-wants-australia-to-help-white-south-african-farmers/9550050

https://www.news24.com/news24/opinions/analysis/donald-trumps-sa-tweet-how-he-got-the-message-20180823 

https://theconversation.com/peter-duttons-fast-track-for-white-south-african-farmers-is-a-throwback-to-a-long-racist-history-93476

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/mar/22/south-africa-risks-food-shortages-if-white-farmers-go-to-australia-nationals-mp-says

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/mar/27/dutton-should-prioritise-refugees-on-nauru-not-white-south-africans-unhcr-says

https://www.sabcnews.com/sabcnews/ramaphosa-hits-back-at-donald-trump-on-land-tweet/

https://www.parliament.gov.za/storage/app/media/Acts/2024/Act_13_of_2024_Expropriation_Act_2024.pdf 

https://www.enca.com/videos/exclusive-interview-frontrunner-become-us-ambassador-sa

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Apartheid International

Original Air Date: 3.13.25

In the last episode, we looked at a strange series of rallies held in cities across the United States in 2012 - American neo-nazis were rallying in support of white South African Farmers. But how did they get that idea in their heads? The rallies were put on by a group called The South Africa Project, run by a woman I'd never heard of. Digging into this mysterious South African, I found a lot more than I bargained for - bombings and mercenaries and an international network of fascist terror.

Sources:

https://www.24sata.hr/news/hsp-as-prisegnuli-na-vjernost-domovini-i-donaldu-trumpu-513281#google_vignette 

https://balkaninsight.com/2017/02/27/us-condemns-zagreb-neo-nazi-march-for-trump-02-27-2017/ 

https://www.icty.org/x/cases/naletilic_martinovic/cis/en/cis_naletilic_martinovic_en.pdf

https://archive.idavox.com/index.php/2012/09/24/the-aryan-nations-show-of-farce-in-dc/

https://time.com/3927339/dylann-roof-charleston-shooting-flags/ 

https://content.time.com/time/subscriber/article/0,33009,863800,00.html 

https://www.csmonitor.com/layout/set/amphtml/1981/0219/021960.html 

https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hate-watch/anti-genocide-protests-around-nation-were-organized-neo-nazis/

Visser, Myda. 1999. University of Pretoria. DIE IDEOLOGIESE GRONDSLAE EN ONlWIKKELING VAN DIE BLANKE FASCISTIESE BEWEGINGS IN SUID-AFRIKA, 1945-1995 

Hill, Ray, and Andrew Bell. The Other Face of Terror: Inside Europe’s Neo-Nazi Network. Grafton, 1988.
https://www.justice.gov.za/trc/report/finalreport/volume%202.pdf

https://www.sahistory.org.za/article/june-16-soweto-youth-uprising 

https://www.sahistory.org.za/article/apartheid-early-1980s

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.5

Guaranteed human.

0:06.0

Coalzo Media.

0:14.0

Hello, everyone.

0:15.8

Molly here.

0:17.5

There won't be a new episode this week or next week, as this Thursday is Christmas Day and next Thursday is New Year's Day.

0:26.2

Regardless which holidays you celebrate, I hope you're enjoying a little peace and relaxation here at the end of the year.

0:33.9

Whenever I have to choose which rerun will go out on the feed, whether it's for a holiday or if I'm sick or on vacation, I have a hard time picking something that makes sense.

0:46.4

I mean, first of all, I have so few standalone episodes. I can't just run part one of a five-part series as a rerun.

0:55.2

That's ridiculous.

0:57.1

And the show's only been on for a year and a half or so,

1:01.3

so it can be hard to pick something old enough that you didn't just hear it.

1:07.7

But here, at the end of the year, I knew exactly what I wanted to do.

1:14.3

When I look back at 2025, I'm pretty proud of most of the work I did on the show.

1:22.3

We started this year by finishing off the five-part series of episodes about Dennis Mahon,

1:32.3

the Klansman who sent a bomb to the diversity office in Scottsdale, Arizona in 2004.

1:42.7

A few weeks after that, I wrote a coda to that story, when the city of Scottsdale bowed to pressure from the Trump administration to close that diversity office.

1:50.0

In the spring, I told you about one pardoned January 6th defendant who got shot on the side of a lonely state highway. And by fall, I was writing about a different January 6th defendant,

1:56.2

making a bid for Congress. I found funny little quirks of history, like the story of New York City

2:03.2

mayor-elect Zoran Mamdani's father, reading marks for the first time after the FBI showed up,

2:10.4

demanding to know if he was a communist. And I found moments of heartbreaking human kindness,

2:28.2

like the final acts of Ricky John Best and Talishin Namkemecce, the men who lost their lives to stop a Nazi on a train from attacking a teenage girl in a hijab.

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