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We Can Do Hard Things

Cynthia Erivo — Wicked, Wild & Wise — is here!!!

We Can Do Hard Things

Treat Media and Glennon Doyle

Society & Culture, Relationships, Education, Self-improvement

4.841.1K Ratings

🗓️ 18 November 2025

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

At last, the brilliant force of nature, Cynthia Erivo, joins us for a deeply personal, mind-blowing, and heart-swelling conversation about dignity and belonging. We discuss:  - How to survive betrayal and learn to fully trust again;  - How to build a circle of people who will always get on the broom with you;  - How Cynthia chooses and prepares for roles like Elphaba—and why she doesn’t believe in method acting; and - How to find light, joy, and creativity in our darkest moments.  Hold onto your witch hats, Pod Squad. This conversation is a ride—and an offering. Enjoy.  About Cynthia:  Cynthia Erivo is a Grammy Emmy and Tony Award-winning actress, singer and producer. She burst onto West End and Broadway stages in THE COLOR PURPLE and has since taken the world by storm. Erivo most recently starred as Elphaba opposite Ariana Grande’s Glinda in Part 1 of the record-breaking film adaptation of the hit musical WICKED. WICKED: For Good is being released THIS WEEK on November 21st. And Erivo’s brand new book SIMPLY MORE is available today.   Follow We Can Do Hard Things on: Youtube — @wecandohardthingsshow   Instagram — @wecandohardthings TikTok — @wecandohardthingshow

Transcript

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0:00.0

Wicked fans everywhere know what Oz looks like.

0:05.8

And now, for the first time ever, they'll know what Oz smells like

0:11.0

because Gaines Wicked for Good, limited edition laundry collection

0:15.0

lets fans experience the magic and joy of Oz with every sniff.

0:32.5

Well, we can do hard things, people.

0:43.3

Today we have the Elphaba herself, Cynthia Arrivo, who I knew was going to be magic, and I had absolutely no idea how mind-blowing and heart-swelling and life-changing, spending an hour

0:50.4

with this force of nature is just hold on to your little witch hats because this is a ride.

0:59.1

Cynthia Arrivo is a Grammy Emmy and Tony Award winning actress, singer and producer.

1:05.0

She burst onto West End and Broadway stages in the color purple, oh, silly, and has since taken the world by storm.

1:12.9

Arrivo most recently starred as Elphaba opposite Ariana Grande's Glinda in part one of the

1:18.7

record-breaking film adaptation of the hit musical, Wicked. Wicked Part 2 is being released this week

1:26.3

on November 21st, and Cynthia's brand new book,

1:30.0

Simply More, which is such a beautiful offering to everyone who wants to know how she became

1:35.3

as magic as she is, is available today.

1:39.6

This conversation is surprisingly personal.

1:42.5

She teaches us how she learned to trust, ask for help,

1:47.2

how she prepares and chooses roles, how she makes decisions in her life. This conversation is an

1:54.3

offering. Enjoy.

1:56.8

And see.

2:00.4

Hello. Hello.

2:02.3

Hello.

2:02.9

How are you?

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