From KCRW Santa Monica and KCRW.com, it's The Treatment.

Welcome to The Treatment. I'm Elvis Mitchell. I'm thrilled to be sitting across from

two-time Oscar nominee in the same year, Cynthia Areva.

She's worked with a couple of friends of our friends here, Steve McQueen on widows, and of course,

Casey Lembens for Harriet, for which she is nominated for her two Academy Awards.

It's a thrill to be sitting across from you.

Thank you.

Good to be here.

Thank you.

And we were saying before we got to start, it's interesting, you played three African-American women's whose voices, literally or figuratively, have freed people between playing Harriet and Aretha Franklin in the upcoming genius mini-series and then playing Alberta Hunter and Mrs. Selfridge.

And interestingly, the voice that you use those characters is all so different.

Yeah.

I mean, I haven't seen it, I'm breathing yet, but I mean, you can tell, there's kind of this Alberta with living in the different. Yeah. I mean, I haven't seen it up with me. I can tell

from this kind of this Alberta with living in the moment. Yes. And the way you played her.

Yeah. Yeah. Very much in the moment. Yeah. And, and Harriet is trying to look ahead a lot, isn't she?

Yes, she is. Very much so. Talk about that.

It's, I think that's just her predisposition she sees she sees the future she sees what could be

she sees what's supposed to be and so that's i think a weight on her she's consistently trying to get

people to that but no one can see it but her and she's you know both trying to move people

whilst tried to convince them that this is the way to go. And I just wanted to make sure that we

could find something, a voice for her that felt right, that felt immediate, that felt communicative,

and just different to anything I had done. And I didn't want it to be, I didn't want it to

...