I'm pleased to have the cyberwire hash table today.

Susan Votrino, ZAN to her friends,

okay, she is the president of Kila Vote Consulting,

a US Air Force Academy grad,

a retired major general of the US Air Force with three decades of experience in space and cyber operations.

She also serves on the Board of Directors for Wells Fargo, CSX, Echolab, and Parsons Corporation,

Plus, Patel and City of Hope.

I can't think of anybody more qualified

to talk about this subject.

ZAN, welcome to the show.

Thank you, Rick.

It is always, always a pleasure.

In the early days, say the 2000s and early two thousand teens with cybersecurity,

corporate boards didn't really have a lot of interest in corporate board experience from a security professional.

Clearly there was some exceptions like in your case, but that hasn't been the norm.

But with Ransomware having a moment right now and President Biden publicly speaking

about supply chain risks, do you find that corporate board recruiters are more

inclined to seek board members with that kind of background, that kind of security background?

Yes, so you're asking, is there a greater opportunity for someone with a technology or particularly a security technology background and the answers yes.

You've got an article that I sent you from corporate director.

Yep.

It talks about the change in the way that they're hiring board members and part of that is a significant

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