Cyber Privateering
The Lawfare Podcast
The Lawfare Institute
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🗓️ 30 November 2021
⏱️ 41 minutes
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Summary
Cybersecurity is the responsibility of everyone. A cyber attack is no longer confined to the digital realm and can have real impact on various industries like food, gas and medicine. But despite these challenges, there is an opportunity for a new whole-of-society approach to defend against the mounting cyber threats emanating from places like Russia, China and North Korea. One approach advocates that the United States already has a non-governmental model for citizen involvement to adopt for cyberspace.
Alvaro Marañon sat down with Mark Grzegorzewski and Margaret Smith, who, along with Barnett Koven, are the authors of “Cyber Privateering: A New Model for Cyber Civic Engagement,” a paper they presented at the 2021 Cybersecurity Law and Policy Scholars Conference. They discussed the details around the Estonian model that inspired this paper, the role for Civil Air Patrol and the impact a local civil cyber organization could play in the community.
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| 0:25.6 | no bull and the aftermath. |
| 0:34.1 | When you have a volunteer organization that remains regionally aligned but flexible in |
| 0:39.9 | their focus, then in the event of a major disaster or attack, they are able to support the broader |
| 0:49.2 | Sony and emergency response efforts. |
| 0:56.2 | They are flexible enough but they are also structured enough to be able to rally teens |
| 0:59.2 | in response to a crisis that could involve critical information infrastructure or some |
| 1:03.0 | other cybersecurity concern. |
| 1:05.2 | Cost savings associated with that, that flexibility to leverage a volunteer force instead of having |
| 1:11.1 | to have a full-time paid and ready force is really a massive cost savings. |
| 1:17.4 | And you think about it from just a strict human capital perspective. |
| 1:21.7 | I'm Alvaro Maranillon and this is the LawFair podcast, November 30th, 2021. |
| 1:28.4 | Cybersecurity is the responsibility of everyone. |
| 1:31.0 | A cyber attack is no longer confined to the digital realm and can have real impact upon various |
| 1:36.4 | industries like food, gas and medicine. |
| 1:39.9 | But despite these challenges, there is an opportunity for a new whole society approach |
| 1:44.7 | to defend against the mounting cyber threats emanating from places like Russia, China and |
| 1:49.4 | North Korea. |
| 1:51.2 | One approach advocates that the United States already has a non-governmental model for citizen |
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