Cyber Power (Part II) - Hacking ISIS | Grey Zone Ep 5

The Wargame

Sky News

Society & Culture, Documentary, News

4.5 • 1.1K Ratings

🗓️ 7 February 2021

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

In their first joint interview, the director of the UK spy agency GCHQ and the top general in charge of cyber operations for the military talk about how the UK is using the power of cyber to push back against adversaries with the creation of a whole new National Cyber Force.Jeremy Fleming and General Sir Patrick Sanders also reveal new details about how the UK used offensive cyber in the fight against Islamic State, attacking the terrorist group’s ability to fly drones, use their mobile phones and spread online propaganda.We also hear from a woman who was once described as the UK’s best offensive cyber spy.Sally Walker has since left GCHQ and says she is choosing to speak out – now she’s once again a member of the public – to help generate a wider debate about the cyber grey zone.Interviews:Jeremy Fleming, director of GCHQGeneral Sir Patrick Sanders, commander of Strategic CommandSally Walker, cyber expertTobias Elwood, Conservative MP, chair of the defence select committee and former foreign officer and defence ministerCredits:Written and narrated by Deborah Haynes Edited and produced by Chris ScottProduction support from Michael GreenfieldThe head of Sky News Radio is Dave Terris

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0:00.0	Asked if he knows what Islamic State will do to him,
0:07.0	the captured Jordanian pilot's response was brief.
0:10.0	Yes, they will kill me.
0:17.0	An English language online magazine, run by the terrorist group,
0:26.1	interviewed Muath al-Kasasbe after his plane came down over northeast Syria on the 24th of December 2014.
0:30.4	He'd been on a mission as part of an international campaign against the militants
0:35.0	when he suffered a mechanical failure,
0:39.4	or, if you believe the Islamic State account, was shot down. Either way, it was a propaganda coup that was brutally
0:46.8	exploited. On the 3rd of February 2015, the terrorists uploaded onto the internet a slickly produced video of the 26-year-old pilot,
0:58.0	trapped in a metal cage, being burnt alive.
1:04.0	Islamic State shocked the world when it seized swathes of Iraq and Syria in 2014.
1:12.6	Viewing as an enemy, anyone who didn't believe their warped interpretation of Islam.
1:17.6	This is Sky News at 5, our top stories.
1:23.6	Iraqi soldiers in retreat as the country's second city falls to hardline Islamic militants.
1:30.3	The superior manpower and equipment of government forces unable to easily overcome a militia
1:37.3	with a reputation for extremes of violence. They're living in a new state, a caliphate the militants are now in charge of.
1:47.6	But this was not just a conflict fought within their self-declared caliphate.
1:53.1	It was also a global campaign of terror and influence waged across the grey zone of the internet.
1:59.2	They were using it to propagate their hateful ideology and propaganda.
2:03.6	And it was a very cheap and effective way of waging a terrorist warfare.
2:07.6	Islamic State seizure of physical territory
2:10.6	triggered a very visible military response
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