Cyber Leadership at ODNI with Chris Fonzone and Laura Galante
The Lawfare Podcast
The Lawfare Institute
4.7 • 6.4K Ratings
🗓️ 18 April 2023
⏱️ 51 minutes
🧾️ Download transcript
Summary
Chris Fonzone is the General Counsel of ODNI and has worked in senior legal roles at the Defense Department, the National Security Council, and the Department of Justice, and in the private sector as a partner at the Sidley Austin law firm. Laura Galante is the Intelligence Community's Cyber Executive and Director of ODNI’s Cyber Threat Intelligence Integration Center (CTIIC). She worked previously in a position that involves supporting Ukrainian government agencies on cyber defense in the Defense Intelligence Agency and in the private sector at Mandiant.
David Kris, Lawfare contributor and former Assistant Attorney General for the National Security Division, and Bryan Cunningham, Lawfare contributor and Executive Director of the University of California, Irvine’s Cybersecurity Policy & Research Institute, sat down with Chris and Laura to talk about their careers, the intra- and interagency issues in cyber policy and operations, the new National Cyber Strategy, and more.
Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare.
Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Transcript
Click on a timestamp to play from that location
| 0:00.0 | The following podcast contains advertising. |
| 0:04.0 | To access an ad-free version of the LawFair podcast, |
| 0:08.0 | become a material supporter of LawFair at patreon.com slash law fair. |
| 0:14.0 | That's patreon.com slash law fair. |
| 0:18.0 | Also, check out LawFair's other podcast offerings, |
| 0:22.0 | rational security, chatter, law fair no bull, and the aftermath. |
| 0:29.0 | There's sort of this question of like, |
| 0:35.0 | is there going to be one front door or do we need one front door? |
| 0:39.0 | I think the reality is this space is wide |
| 0:43.0 | and what we're trying to figure out how to capture here |
| 0:47.0 | is you've got multiple different sectors with different types of tech |
| 0:51.0 | that are going to get compromised in different ways. |
| 0:53.0 | From OT to IT to all sorts of other systems that we haven't even really conceived of yet. |
| 1:01.0 | We're trying to create legislation at a macro level here |
| 1:05.0 | that's able to capture a lot of those different use cases. |
| 1:07.0 | I think it would be sort of a futile exercise if you were to say |
| 1:11.0 | there's going to be one fit for how you tell the quote-unquote government about this. |
| 1:15.0 | What I think we should hope for and strive for here |
| 1:19.0 | is just clarity on who you approach based on the use case you have |
| 1:24.0 | and what your company is. |
| 1:26.0 | I'm David Chris and I'm Brian Cunningham |
| 1:29.0 | and this is the LawFair podcast April 18th, 2023. |
... |
Please login to see the full transcript.
Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from The Lawfare Institute, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.
Generated transcripts are the property of The Lawfare Institute and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.
Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.