One of the things though that was missing was a lot of times in couples counseling, everybody

would just turn to me and be like, okay, if we can get your problem resolved, then there

won't be a problem.

And almost no attention was given to Jenny and the pain that she was going through and

the questions, the doubts, the insecurities, the things like that, they were going through

her and that's where she realized like, I know I need help.

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So we go to write Vertical Marriage and I map out, I'm going to write these five chapters,

you write these five chapters.

And on day one, it didn't go the way I thought.

Right.

Well, I mean, you mapped them out and then I got on my computer and I thought, okay, hmm,

what do I feel like writing about?

And so I started the chapter and it was called Dave's neck problem.

And it just started flowing.

I'm like, okay, I'm going to write about this and this.

And all I know is I'm on another laptop and another part, a friend gave us this big house.

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