It's Friday morning everyone. Welcome to Cafferoo cast. I'm riding solo today.

When everybody in the know Frank has already injured himself doing CrossFit,

which I find very funny. We may cover that in this podcast today. He dropped the kettlebell on his toe,

which I believe he deserves. But today we have a guy who probably doesn't know this.

I've followed along for many years, kind of a legend in my opinion in the bow hunting world.

That's Kurt Wells, the editor and host over at Bow Hunter Magazine. Host the TV show.

And man, it's an honor to get you on here. I really appreciate you doing it last minute.

Oh, no problem.

I've known who you were. I've never talked to you. I've known who you were for quite some time.

But you've been involved with Bow Hunter for how long? How long?

Well, I filled up my first article in 1984. And where games about an article that I wrote out my first

ill-conned where I made a whole laundry list of mistakes.

So I wrote the article and basically laid out the mistakes I made as a rookie,

and he bought that. And I just kept sending articles and they kept sending me check.

Well, that's good.

Yeah, yeah.

I've listened to a couple podcasts. Well, no, actually one. You did one with Pope and Young. I listened to.

And so I've got a few of my own questions for my own, I guess, selfishness.

Since you've been in the industry so long before we kind of get in the meat and potatoes or the cool stuff as far as hunting stories and things like that.

And one of my main questions for you is as far as the changes in the industry from, you know, obviously, you know, you'd mention on the Pope and Young podcast like that, you know,

the Prince still doing well. You know, how social media has changed what, you know, kind of the,

the whole outlook, good and bad from what social media has done as well as maybe the, you know, the fitness craze.

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