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You and I are sitting here.

You're fresh off a White House visit. Like, that's how you change the way they think. Just showing the snapshot of you at the White House. And they can't help but think a certain way. But you've been there with Bama before a long time ago. You went there yesterday as a head coach. And you got to take players there who, once upon a time, people never thought they'd see that image what was that experience like no i

think it was a great thing for the program the state and our alums and uh you know we had a good time

and uh president trump was fun uh we had fun up at the podium and uh i think uh all the hoosiers

will remember that day as the first time at the white house yeah you know people ask you about alabama all the Hoosiers will remember that day as the first time at the White House. Yeah. You know, people ask you about Alabama all the time. Your experience there. And I want

to ask you about something, but my mind is not going to where most people go. We can get there when we

get there. You got to be part of, to me, two of the greatest settings I've ever seen, that 08-09 SEC championship setting?

Absolutely.

I got to be there just as a spectator.

And I mean, all the years since then, been in many, many insane environments.

Right.

I don't ever remember anything as charged.

What was that like to be a part of?

Yeah, you're exactly right.

Playing in the national championship the next game the second time, the second year,

I'm not going to say it was a letdown, but it wasn't like the SEC game.

It was one verse two, two years in a row in the dome, Florida, Alabama, two great teams.

It was unbelievable. It was incredible. And words can't really

describe it. A lot of great players, great teams, great coaches. And then you fast forward all those,

I'm not skipping over chunks of career, like we'll get to that, but to momentarily fast forward

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