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The Story Collider

Cursed: Stories about superstitions

The Story Collider

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Arts, Science, Society & Culture, Personal Journals, Performing Arts

4.4824 Ratings

🗓️ 25 October 2019

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

This week we present two stories from people who let science lead them down a rabbit hole of curses.

Part 1: Science journalist Erik Vance decides to get cursed by a witch doctor for science.

Part 2: After taking a rock from Mauna Loa, volcanologist Jess Phoenix starts to worry that her offering to the volcano goddess Pele was not enough.

Erik Vance is an award-winning science journalist based in Baltimore. Before becoming a writer he was, at turns, a biologist, a rock climbing guide, an environmental consultant, and an environmental educator. He graduated in 2006 from UC Santa Cruz science writing program and became a freelancer as soon as possible. His work focuses on the human element of science — the people who do it, those who benefit from it, and those who do not. He has written for The New York Times, Nature, Scientific American, Harper’s, National Geographic, and a number of other local and national outlets. His first book, Suggestible You, is about how the mind and body continually twist and shape our realities. While researching the book he was poked, prodded, burned, electrocuted, hypnotized and even cursed by a witchdoctor, all in the name of science.

Jess Phoenix is Executive Director and co-founder of environmental scientific research organization Blueprint Earth. She is a volcanologist, an extreme explorer, and former candidate for United States Congress. She has been chased by narco-traffickers in Mexico, dodged armed thieves in remote Peru, raced horses across Mongolia, worked on the world’s largest volcano in Hawaii, piloted the Jason2 submersible on an undersea volcano, and explored deep in the Australian Outback. Jess believes science should be accessible to everyone, and that creative possibility is limitless. Jess is a Fellow in The Explorers Club and the Royal Geographical Society, a featured scientist on the Discovery and Science Channels, an invited TEDx speaker, and she has appeared in the New York Times, the Washington Post, in Wired, Fast Company, on National Public Radio, on CNN, NBC, and has written for the BBC. She is the host of the podcast Catstrophe! (catastropheshow.com) and has a book coming out in Spring 2020 with Timber Press called Miss Adventure: My Life as a Geologist, Explorer, and Professional Risk-Taker.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

A science story, huh?

0:04.0

Is NYU scientist the...

0:06.0

I felt it was really, but I was so...

0:09.0

And I just thought, well...

0:10.0

It was that golden moment.

0:13.0

Because science was on my side. Hey, everybody, welcome to the Story Collider, where we bring you true personal stories about science.

0:31.9

We are your host, Erin Barker.

0:33.8

And Liz Neely.

0:35.3

And this week we're presenting stories about being cursed. Ooh, spooky.

0:41.0

No, I hate the spooky stuff, Aaron. You know I can't handle it. And yet, I know that you have

0:48.1

researched the spooky stuff for me. Well, I mean, that's what you do when you're scared,

0:52.0

right? Learn everything you can. So I was digging up papers on the psychology of curses. And now I blame you for taking me down some very weird Google scholar rabbit holes.

1:03.5

Oh, dear. Yeah. I come prepared to talk about the winner's curse, the loser's curse, the borrower's curse, the curse at equilibrium,

1:15.4

the curse of too much knowledge, the curse of the dolphins. Oh my God, so many curses, so little time. That's not even getting at all of the sports curses, the curse of the Bambino, etc. Right,

1:22.6

right? Four out of every five professional athletes in one survey admitted to at least one superstitious behavior that they perform before a contest.

1:31.0

Wow.

1:31.3

And I was, right?

1:32.4

I was thinking about this.

1:33.3

I was like, it's a fine line between a routine and a superstition.

1:39.0

And we know that the things that we do that affect our thoughts and emotions and attitude impact our performance.

1:47.1

It's a lot like a placebo effect, right?

1:52.0

I used to think that was all just entirely in your head.

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