What's up everybody and welcome back to Gear 30 on the Blister Podcast Network.

I'm Jonathan Ellsworth and you can check out everything we're doing and reviewing over at

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the Gear Nerdery coming. And full disclosure, we actually don't think this is just stuff that you have to be a nerd to

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and we'll keep doing what we're doing. Now, that said, if you would also enjoy hearing the

kind of information that matters a whole lot less than the stuff we're going to be talking

about today, but that is still really fun.

Then you should be sure to check out part one of our Bikes versus Skies conversation,

which has taken place over on our Bikes and Big Ideas podcast feed.

Bikes versus Skies.

If you don't know what that is, you should definitely check it out.

And if you do already know what that is, then you know you already kind of want to check it out. And if you do already know what that is,

then you know you already kind of want to check it out. All right, today we are continuing our

series on the current state of helmet tech and R&D. And our guest is Steve Belfay from

Pret Helmets. Among other things in this conversation, Steve and I discuss the penetration test or the

DART test that is a part of the safety certification process. Steve also explains why Pratt

places such an importance or emphasis on ventilation. We also talk about the customization of

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