Just be encouraged. I mean, it's so tempting to fall into a sense of daily despair, but we've

been talking about ways that we can develop practices of overcoming our own calluses.

And maybe don't start with the equivalent of a 300-pound bench press in terms of engaging with others we disagree

with, but just one push-up maybe, the rhetorical equivalent of one push-up. So somebody who voted

differently on a proposition than you did as opposed to president. And just one degree at a time,

that's the concept I want to lean into. And it's a practice. It's a practice. It's not a solution.

One shot is going to fix it all. It's a practice. It's not a solution, a one shot is going to fix it all.

It's a daily moment-to-moment practice.

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