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The David McWilliams Podcast

Curious minds - Discussing Turkey and losing democracy with Ece Temelkuran

The David McWilliams Podcast

David McWilliams

News & Politics

4.6643 Ratings

🗓️ 5 September 2019

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

For this month's curious minds episode we talk with Ece Temelkuran, one of Turkey’s best-known journalists and political commentators about her latest book- How to Lose a Country: The 7 Steps from Democracy to Dictatorship, her own personal experience in Turkey and what the world should understand from it.

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0:37.6

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0:39.6

To understand the economy, you have to understand human nature.

0:51.4

Welcome to the David McWilliams podcast, the podcast which aims to make economics.

0:55.8

And today, politics more comprehensible, more accessible, and actually a little bit more relevant to your life.

1:02.4

Now, today we're coming from the Daukey Book Festival.

1:05.8

And we bring all sorts of thinkers and writers and creative people into Dublin, into Daukey,

1:13.5

to shed light on the world.

1:15.5

And one book that I picked up this year was a book by a Turkish writer called Eché Temelkuren,

1:23.7

and it was called How to Lose a Country.

1:25.9

And in actual fact, and this is all bragging,

1:29.4

Brian Eno, the producer of you two of Talking Heads of David Bowie, was the man who actually

1:35.8

said to me, you need to read this book. The Seven Steps, from Democracy to Dictatorship,

1:41.9

which encapsulates what's going on in the world right now.

1:45.1

And amazingly, H.A. is here with us in Turkey. How are you? Oh, I'm fine. And I'm, you know,

1:52.1

very lucky to have a producer of my side, such a producer. Well, exactly. Listen, we'll give

1:57.4

the checks in the post. But no, the book is extraordinary.

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