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Harry Potter and the Sacred Text

Curiosity: Occlumency (Book 5, Chapter 24)

Harry Potter and the Sacred Text

Vanessa Zoltan, Casper ter Kuile & Ariana Nedelman

Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture, Jk Rowling, Books, Reading, Harry Potter, Arts, Sacred Reading, Sprituality, Sacred, Philosophy

4.76.8K Ratings

🗓️ 7 March 2019

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

Vanessa and Casper explore the theme of Curiosity in chapter twenty-four of Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix. They really zoom in on the Harry/Snape dynamic in this chapter: discussing the first Occlumency lesson, examining Snape’s motivations, and as always, finding a way to blame Dumbledore. Throughout the episode they consider the question: How much curiosity do we owe people?

Thanks to Trey Lyon for this week's voicemail! Next week we’ll be reading chapter twenty-five, The Beetle at Bay, through the theme of defiance.


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0:00.0

Chapter 24, Aklumensi.

0:03.6

Creature, it transpired, had been lurking in the attic.

0:07.2

Syria said he found him up there, covered in dust, no doubt looking for more relics

0:11.9

of the black family to hide in his cupboard.

0:14.9

Those Syria seemed satisfied with this story.

0:17.8

I'm Vanessa Zoltan, and I'm Kasper Takaal, and this is Harry Potter and the Sacred Text.

0:24.0

From the ages of 15 to 18, every morning I took a journey that lasted an hour and a half

0:29.6

to get to school, and then another hour and a half to get home.

0:32.7

And it involved me walking, getting a ride in a car to a place where the school bus

0:36.7

would pick me up that would take me to school.

0:39.0

So three times a week, I got a ride in this VW van with like a raky healer and a therapist

0:45.3

and someone else and like everyone was fascinating.

0:48.8

But on Tuesdays and Thursdays, I would get a ride with Shereen.

0:52.7

And Shereen was a friend of my mother's, and she was also the mother of one of my sister's

0:56.9

classmates.

0:57.9

And she stayed in various ways, and I loved getting a ride with Shereen.

1:02.5

Because Shereen was the first adult I remember who showed real interest in what I thought

1:07.3

about the world.

1:08.8

She would ask me questions about politics, and we would talk about TV shows.

1:13.0

And what was so special to me about Shereen is that she asked questions about what I thought,

1:18.4

like she was interested in my perspective.

1:20.9

And if you grew up in a family at home and you have siblings, especially, there's no

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