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So it is John Givens for the Amphitov App and over the last few days people will obviously have seen the images and videos are going around the world. It's a scary time. It's a scary time kind of throughout, you know, for the world generally speaking, but kind of especially at the moment. At the end we've been talking talking about how best to kind of cover it because obviously we're always

interested in what's going on in society as well as football and usually the best way we choose to cover things that maybe we're not experts on or that we want to speak to other people on is to amplify other voices and so that is what we're doing now.

So we're amplifying voice of someone who's going to inform us more about what's going on over there in America

and how it links to all of us I guess and so is Armani Wilhelms coming at you for the first time

on the Amphibabs of Armani first of all welcome and thank you for the first time on the Amphibab,

Armani.

First of all, welcome and thank you for joining us.

Yeah, thank you so much for having me on.

I mean, you guys are amazing, huge fan,

and you guys are pioneers, just in you know so false

Porter culture but also in the tech industry too and you guys have been able to

again take working class voices and elevate them and that's super successful and

should be celebrated everywhere. Well thank you so much, thank you so much for that.

So I want to start with your story first of all of money because you are a

Liverpool fan and you're African American which you're going to come on to but you're

a Liverpool supporter so I want to know more about why that started and why what it was about

Liverpool in particular that attracted you that made you want to get right behind

this team as you said you were die- hard now. So what took you, first to track the use of the Liverpool and then what sent you kind of over the edge to it right, I'm all in?

All right, well, I mean, the story of modern football, modern soccer in the United States

is interesting because before like 10, 15 years ago it was really hard to watch games. It was really, really difficult.

If you didn't have a satellite TV or an expensive cable package, you couldn't watch real live games.

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